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Lucian · Dialogues of the Dead · 8 of 30

Dialogue 8

Translated by Matthew Donald Macleod

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1. MENIPPUS: I heard, Chiron, that though you were a god, you wanted to die. CHIRON: What you heard is true, Menippus, and I am dead, as you see, though I could have been immortal.

1. ΜΕΝΙΠΠΟΣ: Ἤκουσα, ὦ Χείρων, ὡς θεὸς ὢν ἐπεθύμησας ἀποθανεῖν. ΧΕΙΡΩΝ: Ἀληθῆ ταῦτα ἤκουσας, ὦ Μένιππε, καὶ τέθνηκα, ὡς ὁρᾷς, ἀθάνατος εἶναι δυνάμενος.

MENIPPUS: Whatever made you so enamoured of death, a thing for which most men have no love? CHIRON: I’ll tell you, seeing that you’re an intelligent fellow. I had no pleasure left in enjoying immortality.

ΜΕΝΙΠΠΟΣ: Τίς δαί σε ἔρως τοῦ θανάτου ἔσχεν, ἀνεράστου τοῖς πολλοῖς χρήματος; ΧΕΙΡΩΝ: Ἐρῶ πρὸς σὲ οὐκ ἀσύνετον ὄντα. οὐκ ἦν ἔτι ἡδὺ ἀπολαύειν τῆς ἀθανασίας.

MENIPPUS: Was it not pleasant to live and see the light? CHIRON: No, Menippus. I consider pleasure to come from variety and change; but I was living on and on, and enjoying the same things—sun, light and food; the seasons were always the same, and everything came in its turn, one thing seeming to follow automatically upon another; and so I had too much of it all, for I found my pleasure not in always having the same thing, but also in doing quite without it.

ΜΕΝΙΠΠΟΣ: Οὐχ ἡδὺ ἦν ζῶντα ὁρᾶν τὸ φῶς; ΧΕΙΡΩΝ: Οὔκ, ὦ Μένιππε· τὸ γὰρ ἡδὺ ἔγωγε ποικίλον τι καὶ οὐχ ἁπλοῦν ἡγοῦμαι εἶναι. ἐγὼ δὲ ἔζων ἀεὶ καὶ ἀπέλαυον τῶν ὁμοίων, ἡλίου, φωτός, τροφῆς, αἱ ὧραι δὲ αἱ αὐταὶ καὶ τὰ γινόμενα ἅπαντα ἑξῆς ἕκαστον, ὥσπερ ἀκολουθοῦντα θάτερον θατέρῳ· ἐνεπλήσθην οὖν αὐτῶν· οὐ γὰρ ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ ἀεὶ, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐν τῷ ⟨μὴ⟩ μετασχεῖν ὅλως τὸ τερπνὸν ἦν.

MENIPPUS: Well spoken, Chiron. But how do you endure things in Hades, now that you’ve come down here out of preference?

ΜΕΝΙΠΠΟΣ: Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Χείρων. τὰ ἐν ᾅδου δὲ πῶς φέρεις, ἀφ' οὗ προελόμενος αὐτὰ ἥκεις;

2. CHIRON: I find them not unpleasant, Menippus. The equality here is truly democratic, and it makes no difference whether one is in light or in darkness. Besides, there’s no need to be thirsty or hungry, as up above; we don’t feel any of these needs.MENIPPUS: Take care you don’t trip yourself up, Chiron, and have to use the same theory again. CHIRON: What do you mean?

2. ΧΕΙΡΩΝ: Οὐκ ἀηδῶς, ὦ Μένιππε· ἡ γὰρ ἰσοτιμία πάνυ δημοτικὴ καὶ τὸ πρᾶγμα οὐδὲν ἔχει τὸ διάφορον ἐν φωτὶ εἶναι ἢ ἐν σκότῳ· ἄλλως τε οὔτε διψῆν ὥσπερ ἄνω οὔτε πεινῆν δεῖ, ἀλλ’ ἀνεπιδεεῖς τούτων ἁπάντων ἐσμέν.ΜΕΝΙΠΠΟΣ: Ὅρα, ὦ Χείρων, μὴ περιπίπτῃς σεαυτῷ καὶ ἐς τὸ αὐτό σοι ὁ λόγος περιστῇ. ΧΕΙΡΩΝ: Πῶς τοῦτο φῄς;

MENIPPUS: That if you became sick and tired of the constant monotony and sameness of things in life, things here too are monotonous; and so you may become just as sick and tired of them, and have to look for a change from here to yet another life—and that, I think, is impossible. CHIRON: Then what can one do, Menippus?

ΜΕΝΙΠΠΟΣ: Ὅτι εἰ τῶν ἐν τῷ βίῳ τὸ ὅμοιον ἀεὶ καὶ ταὐτὸν ἐγένετό σοι προσκορές, καὶ τἀνταῦθα ὅμοια ὄντα προσκορῆ ὁμοίως ἂν γένοιτο, καὶ δεήσει μεταβολήν σε ζητεῖν τινα καὶ ἐντεῦθεν εἰς ἄλλον βίον, ὅπερ οἶμαι ἀδύνατον. ΧΕΙΡΩΝ: Τί οὐν ἂν πάθοι τις, ὦ Μένιππε;

MENIPPUS: What I imagine a sensible man is reputed to do—be content and satisfied with one’s lot and think no part of it intolerable.

ΜΕΝΙΠΠΟΣ: Ὅπερ, οἶμαι, φασί, συνετὸν ὄντα ἀρέσκεσθαι καὶ ἀγαπᾶν τοῖς παροῦσι καὶ μηδὲν αὐτῶν ἀφόρητον οἴεσθαι.