SN 24.45 · Winds
SN 24.45 · Navātasutta
At Sāvatthī.
Sāvatthinidānaṁ.
“Mendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does the view arise: ‘Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar’?”
“Kismiṁ nu kho, bhikkhave, sati, kiṁ upādāya, kiṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘na vātā vāyanti, na najjo sandanti, na gabbhiniyo vijāyanti, na candimasūriyā udenti vā apenti vā esikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā’”ti?
“Our teachings are rooted in the Buddha. …”
“Bhagavaṁmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā …pe….
“When form exists, because of grasping form and insisting on form, the view arises: ‘Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar.’ When feeling … perception … choices … consciousness exists, because of grasping consciousness and insisting on consciousness, the view arises: ‘Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar.’
“Rūpe kho, bhikkhave, sati, rūpaṁ upādāya, rūpaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati— na vātā vāyanti …pe… vedanāya sati … saññāya sati … saṅkhāresu sati … viññāṇe sati, viññāṇaṁ upādāya, viññāṇaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘na vātā vāyanti …pe… esikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā’ti.
What do you think, mendicants? Is form permanent or impermanent?”
Taṁ kiṁ maññatha, bhikkhave, rūpaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?
“Impermanent, sir.” …
“Aniccaṁ, bhante” …pe…
“But by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would the view arise: ‘Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar’?”
vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjeyya: ‘na vātā vāyanti …pe… esikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā’”ti?
“No, sir.”
“No hetaṁ, bhante”.
“And so, what’s impermanent is suffering. When this exists, grasping at this, the view arises: ‘Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar.’ Is feeling … perception … choices … consciousness permanent or impermanent?”
“Iti kho, bhikkhave, yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ. Tasmiṁ sati, tadupādāya, evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘na vātā vāyanti, na najjo sandanti, na gabbhiniyo vijāyanti, na candimasūriyā udenti vā apenti vā esikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā’”ti. “Vedanā … saññā … saṅkhārā … viññāṇaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?
“Impermanent, sir.” …
“Aniccaṁ, bhante” …pe… vipariṇāmadhammaṁ,
api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjeyya: ‘na vātā vāyanti …pe… esikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā’”ti? “No hetaṁ, bhante”.
“And so, what’s impermanent is suffering. When this exists, grasping at this, the view arises: ‘Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar.’”
“Iti kho, bhikkhave, yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ. Tasmiṁ sati, tadupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘na vātā vāyanti …pe… esikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā’”ti.
Paṭhamaṁ.
SN 24.46–69 · This is Mine, etc.
SN 24.46–69 · Etaṁmamādisutta
(Tell in full as in discourses 20 through 43 of the second chapter.)
(Dutiyavagge viya catuvīsati suttāni pūretabbāni.)
Pañcavīsatimaṁ.
SN 24.70 · The Self is Neither Happy Nor Suffering
SN 24.70 · Adukkhamasukhīsutta
At Sāvatthī.
Sāvatthinidānaṁ.
“Mendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does the view arise: ‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and healthy after death’?”
“Kismiṁ nu kho, bhikkhave, sati, kiṁ upādāya, kiṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?
“Our teachings are rooted in the Buddha. …”
“Bhagavaṁmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā …pe….
“When form exists, because of grasping form and insisting on form, the view arises: ‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and is healthy after death.’ When feeling … perception … choices … consciousness exists, because of grasping consciousness and insisting on consciousness, the view arises: ‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and healthy after death.’
“Rūpe kho, bhikkhave, sati, rūpaṁ upādāya, rūpaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti. “Vedanāya sati …pe… saññāya sati … saṅkhāresu sati … viññāṇe sati, viññāṇaṁ upādāya, viññāṇaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’ti.
What do you think, mendicants? Is form permanent or impermanent?”
Taṁ kiṁ maññatha, bhikkhave, rūpaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?
“Impermanent, sir.” …
“Aniccaṁ, bhante” …pe… vipariṇāmadhammaṁ,
api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjeyya: ‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti? “No hetaṁ, bhante”.
“And so, what’s impermanent is suffering. When this exists, grasping at this, the view arises: ‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and is healthy after death.’ Is feeling … perception … choices … consciousness permanent or impermanent?”
“Iti kho, bhikkhave, yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ. Tasmiṁ sati, tadupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti. “Vedanā …pe… saññā … saṅkhārā … viññāṇaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?
“Impermanent, sir.” …
“Aniccaṁ, bhante” …pe… vipariṇāmadhammaṁ,
“But by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would such a view arise?”
api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjeyya: ‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?
“No, sir.”
“No hetaṁ, bhante”.
“And so, what’s impermanent is suffering. When this exists, grasping at this, the view arises: ‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and healthy after death.’”
“Iti kho, bhikkhave, yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ. Tasmiṁ sati, tadupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati: ‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti. Chabbīsatimaṁ.
Tatiyapeyyālo.